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newsmakers Sunday with Fox tens John

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Hook guys you're wondering what the

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background is we are gonna make a

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complete departure today we are going to

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talk about things from out-of-this-world

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UFOs and since it's early in the morning

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it's a great time to get off on a

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subject that many people they're a

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little ticklish talking about it frankly

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but 36% of Americans 80 million believe

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UFOs exist and 1/10 believe they have

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spotted one this is from a National

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Geographic poll 17% said they did not

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believe in UFOs or unidentified flying

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objects and nearly half of those

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surveyed said they were unsure put me in

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that category I don't know what to

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believe

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don't know if we've been visited but

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we're gonna talk about it with two guys

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who were here for this massive UFO

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convention going on a week opaw up in

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Scottsdale

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Jeremy is a Korbel yep Jeremy Korbel is

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an investigative filmmaker he's on the

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right of your screen

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Ryan Sprague is a UFO journalist thanks

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for joining us thank you usually when

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you do a news program and we have

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politicians on we have guys on all the

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time do are the journalists skeptical or

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fairly open-minded about this subject

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well you're a journalist yeah

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that's a great question um I think as a

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journalist it is your job to remain

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open-minded about the topic you're

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covering especially when it comes to

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UFOs there's such a broad spectrum of

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phenomenon that seems to be happening

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and I think by remaining open that's

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when the journalists can really get to

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the core of the phenomenon and the

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people they're dealing with Jeremy let

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me ask you there it seems that this is

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broken down into out of a hundred

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percent of sightings and UFOs are only

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unidentified flying objects that's all

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we don't know what they are it doesn't

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hang there space aliens they're just we

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don't know what it is it seems that when

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you break it down the research I've done

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90% can be explained and then you're

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left with 10% that can't really be

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explained very well and that's where

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that's where the rub is right you make a

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really good point

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your your intro this is not about belief

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it's either true

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where it's not true if one sighting in

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the millions of sightings from credible

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Americans people that have walked on the

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moon like dr. Edgar Mitchell right

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astronauts exactly if even one of these

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sightings is real and it is in fact a

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craft of origin from somewhere other

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than Earth just one out of the millions

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then we have a real phenomena

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something's actually going on but it's

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not a matter of belief it's either true

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or it's not true it can be an

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extraordinary belief until there's

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evidence and so as a investigative

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filmmaker that's what I try to do is

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talk with people on the inside let me go

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through and this this stunned me okay I

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just want to run down this list of

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believers okay Richard Nixon Jimmy

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Carter Ronald Reagan Mikhail Gorbachev

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professor Stephen Hawking Hawking now

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one of the theoretical physicists one of

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the brightest guys in in the in the

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known world believes in UFOs and

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extraterrestrials and in an interview

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said of course it's possible that UFOs

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really do contain aliens in a part of

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interpolant interplanetary craft of some

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sort and my colleagues are confident

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that they do not originate in our solar

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system so you've got a lot of guys out

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there credible people who are believers

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yeah we had a huge panel it's called the

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citizen hearing and one of my business

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partners Reuben Langdon we essentially

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documented the whole thing and it was

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you know 40 different witnesses

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you know from everywhere from astronauts

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to pilots so people are coming forward

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and people are saying and finally

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without ridicule saying I believe but

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again I stand to the point it's not a

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matter of belief

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it's an extraordinary religion he is

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correct it's true or it's not true and

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so the idea is if it is true what does

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that mean and to what degree is it okay

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let me go let me go through the through

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the list here Ryan let's start with you

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what is the best proof that we have to

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date that we didn't visit it that we've

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been visited yes that is a great

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question you can look at experience

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experiences such as Travis Walton right

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here in Arizona here in Arizona one of

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the best documented cases of all time he

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says he was abducted he says he was a

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northern Arizona yes he's been put under

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polygraph tests the other witnesses who

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saw this with him saw him literally be

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shot with a beam by a craft of unknown

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origin we're put under polygraph tests

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and they all passed with flying colors

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what's the best you've got Jeremy yeah

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the best evidence that I have because

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man I'm looking for it too you know I

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want the smoking gun either way I mean

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that's like I have made so this is what

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we deal with I need proof right yeah

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I've made some wild films you know I

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made a film called patient 17 about a

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man who had an alleged implant that we

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removed physically and I actually

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followed the whole process never thought

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I would do something like that that

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didn't prove it to me fully but I think

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what gives me the greatest sense of

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proof for myself to really my

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imagination has been weaponized and as a

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young child it had been I am so curious

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I want to know so the best proof that I

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have is essentially people of high

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credibility in positions to know have

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told me directly off camera and on

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camera that yes it is true there other

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there are intelligent life you know out

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there that they are visiting our planet

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and engaging humanity now I personally

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have no experience with that but wait

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you come up to people becomes heavy

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evidence becomes heavy over time I don't

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have the luxury of disbelief but what I

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do have is a camera which is a passport

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into these stories and they'll tell you

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the story yes they you know quick quick

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aside on Travis Walton I was doing a

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story back in 94 on winter sports up up

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on the muggy on rim and a guy gave us a

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ride on a snowmobile who had taken

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Travis Walton out to the area where he

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had been abducted he took him out with a

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film crew and here's what he told me he

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said I don't know whether Travis Walton

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was abducted or not he goes but let me

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tell you something Travis Walton

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believes he was abducted he said I can

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tell you that for certain because as we

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got closer to where he was abducted he

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started freaking out and actually

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demanded at one point that they stop and

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turn around he got so adjutant people

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passed polygraph tests on the people

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aren't lying there's millions and

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millions of Americans that are seeing

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things in the sky that defy all known

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physics and that's the important and

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interesting idea we had it happen here

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the Phoenix lights or I show you that

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sorry yeah this is one of the best known

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cases tape number two the Phoenix lights

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this is the way the lights looked over

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day after the Phoenix lights appear

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there have been multiple descriptions

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but the people up in northern Arizona

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saw lights that were deciding happenings

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in the sky she's a phoenix doctor I

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actually pushed my entire professional

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life aside for four years in search of

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an answer what really happened that

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some believe the state of Arizona was

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visited by a parade of alien spacecraft

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at least one of which was a large

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triangular vessel seen by thousands of

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people there was this huge formation of

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lights the formation of lights

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nextly no it was in a nice shape and

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about being round ships but this was a

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big black triangle

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after months of saying nothing the Air

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claiming it was flares in the sky that

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night like these dropped over the Barry

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Goldwater bombing range southwest of the

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valley but dr. Lemke ties sightings

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began from a Paradise Valley home two

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years earlier in 1995 my husband who's

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also a physician and I with no interest

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or knowledge in this topic at all

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witnessed a very close sighting to our

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home three amber orbs appeared outside

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their rooms window I did get photos of

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it wondered for two years what we saw

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had no idea then okay March 13th 1997

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extraordinary also featured in the

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documentary UFO investigator Michael

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Tanner I was responsible for putting

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together the timeline and the whole

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summary of the events that took place on

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march 13th eight years ago the various

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sightings were reported that night from

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hours the intent seemed to be clearly to

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possess the technology that's so far in

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advance of our own that there's

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literally no contest military sources

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tell Tanner that fighter jets from Luke

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Air Force Base did intercept the lights

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in the sky eyewitnesses reported one

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officer we ran across without giving his

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name or allowing us to reveal his name

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said it was the worst night of his

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military life it was sheer pandemonium

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at Luke Air Force Base a topic expertise

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documentary before another officer comes

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formation I don't leave their Flair I

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don't play their conventional aircraft I

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mass sighting that night prompted key

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tide to begin an investigation knowing

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full well that publishing a book and now

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producing a film puts her professional

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reputation at risk there's been ridicule

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and snickering and the witness accounts

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have not been taken taken as seriously

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as maybe they should this story comes

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from someone who was honestly seeking to

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know and understand the truth for

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herself and a great risk to her

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professional standing stature and

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reputation but her book and documentary

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film key tie hopes to help change all

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that to convince other that it's okay to

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report sightings that even without all

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the answers questions are still worth

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asking just because we may not have the

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technology yet to definitively define

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what these things are it doesn't mean

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they're not real there are people that

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can't deal with this reality it's time

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we get it out in the open and that's why

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I'm doing this and we address it we

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accept it and we study it by the way in

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a recent interview with governor Fife

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Symington of course he was one of the

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people who saw this and he told me I

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pressed him on it he said look and he

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you know he's a Navy aviator right he

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flew planes for the Navy

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he said all I know is what I saw and it

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was not of this world he saw it up by

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Peak do you guys have a theory as

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to what was going on and has the

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government explained this I I honestly

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don't think the government knows what

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they're dealing with we hear all the

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time about government cover-ups and

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black ops projects but the simplest way

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to deny that it happened is to to deny

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that it happened but thousands of people

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saw the Phoenix oh there's no doubt I

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still get emails from them okay let me

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let me play devil's advocate for a

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minute if we were in the development of

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the b-1 bomber okay the the the

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diamond-shaped craft right when that was

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developed if that was being flown over a

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metro area people would have said oh my

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god what is that thing it's not like an

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airplane right is it possible what we're

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seeing our craft that we're building

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some of what we're seeing are craft that

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we're building but the problem you have

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without argument is that these sightings

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go back throughout history you know oh

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I've heard some from the 1600s oh

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absolutely four and if it was flying

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discs cylindrical shaped craft I mean

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that the the the entire experience that

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people are having where they're seeing

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these things it's been going on since

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the beginning of recorded human history

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so that theory just doesn't hold water

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because eventually you and by the way I

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mean part of what I do is I interview

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you know government witnesses so I can

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tell you matter of fact that some parts

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of the government are just as confused

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as we are about the whole are they

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scared

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is the government frightened of this

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that's that's a personal question I mean

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a fear is a personal human thing it just

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is one person scared because they are

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you know extremely religious compared to

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another person that is just purely

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scientific but

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I do believe doubt the doubt if there is

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another intelligent civilization

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contacting us it's more highly advanced

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I mean that's a problem that's a problem

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for anybody right because if they're not

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telling us that because they're able to

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travel from insane with impunity

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throughout our skies that is a problem

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for any nation so it's a serious issue

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does anybody talk about whether this and

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this is really getting out there that

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something from outside I mean way

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outside would be the catalyst that could

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bring the nations on earth that are

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always in conflict together Ronald

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Reagan said that like seven times in a

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bunch of his speeches at the UN the

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threat from an extraterrestrial presence

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would instantaneously unite humanity so

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presidents have been talking about this

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I mean look it up Ronald Reagan at the

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UN said those exact words so that's

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that's something that people think about

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quite a bit if we were to have this

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disclosure of an et presence the

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implications are just astounding okay

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religion socially everything if we've

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been visited because we know kind of the

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makeup of at least within our boy what

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will we say our universe are we know

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that this this has to be something

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coming from way way beyond any kind of

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propulsion that that we know of that

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could get you there and keep people

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alive or creatures alive long enough to

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get you there it's really interesting

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that you bring that up because at this

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UFO Congress one of the big highlights

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of the Congress is an individual named

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Bob Lazar I have followed the case for

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many years because my mentor is George

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Knapp who grew up watching him he's a

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new he's a television news reporter he

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body award-winning journalist he's

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amazing

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so basically I've been able to see it

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from a very unique perspective Bob is is

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coming in to talk to this conference he

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claims that he back engineered

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extraterrestrial technologies propulsion

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systems advanced propulsion systems that

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essentially warp space-time they

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essentially amplify gravity waves in

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order to travel the

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most incredible idea and you know what I

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just got to say on the record after

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looking at this as an investigative

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journalist I believe Bob and he's gonna

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be there to talk with everybody after 25

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years of radio silence when you when you

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okay yeah he's been silent on the issue

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because he didn't want to be hassled by

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people correct the private guy okay let

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me ask you this when you say

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reverse-engineered did they have a piece

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of a craft yeah they were trying to back

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down that is exactly as yeah and a

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number of people I've talked with who

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have been on the inside have also

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explained that to the tea so there have

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been recoveries of crap we not only

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allegedly have recoveries but we also

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have craft that may not even be damaged

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what about aliens you know the story

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about Nessun taking Jackie Gleason to

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homestead Air Force passing aliens but

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it may have been a hoax but we don't

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know look he may have been pulling a

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prank on let's not jump ahead cart

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before the horse if there are

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intelligent beings that created you know

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craft that are visiting earth because

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that's the I think the big news let's

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say over the next 20 years it is that

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true are we being visited

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are they drones or do they have the

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intelligences that made them riding in

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them and you know I want to know - if

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this is true are there extraterrestrials

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visiting and that would be you guys find

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out will you love me know this would be

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all right you may think I've lost my

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mind but I'm having a ball with these

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guys this is Jeremy Korbel on the right

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he's an investigative filmmaker Ryan

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Sprague as a UFO journalist and as you

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can tell by the backdrop we are we are

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just exploring what if here I started

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the show by saying that 36% of Americans

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80 million people believe that UFOs

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exist a tenth believe they've spotted

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one this is according to a National

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Geographic poll do you guys think that

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public sentiment is changing on this

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issue that people have maybe gone from

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all hogwash nonsense to you know what I

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don't know is that happening yeah I can

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see it happening every day especially

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within the mass media it's just it's

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astounding how much it's changed and

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what is that is why is that I think as

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we draw closer scientifically I mean

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we're discovering all these exoplanets

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we're discovering we're sending message

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sending an unmanned you know craft to

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Europa these are opening up the

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possibilities of life elsewhere whether

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it be biological I have a theory as well

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yeah I think as we get smarter we start

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to understand how much we don't know yes

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and I think that's playing into it

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yeah and I think you know my personal

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opinion on it is that when I started

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talking to people about this when I was

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like 13 years old so you know I don't

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know how many years ago over two decades

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ago people would almost laugh when you

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said extraterrestrials probably exist

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the worldview has changed now we know

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all these exoplanets trillions of star

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systems with habitable planets so the

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whole paradigm has shifted what's the

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next thing and now you're gonna connect

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you exactly you're gonna be ahead ten

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years right now what would the big deal

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be what is the biggest lie well if these

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things are real are they coming here so

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that's the question if we can kind of

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narrow in the discussion to that now

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rather than extra Stroh's don't exist

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okay well we just have the one planet

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out of trillions and billions of

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billions that has life on it well then

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the question about UFOs okay maybe the

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question should be do you believe

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there's life out there that's a whole

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different thing you probably have a

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a lot more people who believe well I'm

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just saying that's the simple one that

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we should all be far beyond you know if

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people have we should be just the

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science of it the sheer numbers we

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should be on that question the question

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we should be asking is okay there

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probably is life everywhere microbial

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and intelligent are they visiting here

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and if so what are the implication what

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has anybody come up with a theory if we

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have been visited okay I again I I don't

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believe we have but I'm keeping an open

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mind about it

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if we've been visited why have they not

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presented themselves in a more dramatic

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way and said look we come from Planet X

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here we are

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does anybody explain this yeah I mean

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there have been tons in tons of cases of

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these supposed beings who may not think

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we're ready we may be on some sort of

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timetable of their so we have to sort of

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look at it as if they are coming from

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vast distances and they are this ahead

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of us

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you know technologically and perhaps

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intelligently that maybe we haven't

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reached that potential to handle it to

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handle it yet III yeah I give you enough

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issues to worry about on this plan okay

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this is the last thing on a lot of

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people's minds where it's one of the

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first on ours I gotta chime in here on

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this so one of my dear friends growing

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up is rod Roddenberry you Gene

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Roddenberry's the son of Gene

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Roddenberry so I interviewed him for

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this conference and I have a piece that

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I'm gonna be playing at the conference

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where he's weighing and for the first

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time on the extra-terrestrial issue I

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mean which is weird you figured he'd way

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and sooner but essentially they talk

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about things like the the prime

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directive the idea of non-interference

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and this is he kind of talked to me

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about this he says I don't know if it's

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just microbial life or intelligent life

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he says my preference is intelligent

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life he says but let's say they are here

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let's say they are visiting maybe there

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is a prime director

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maybe there's a non-interference clause

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where they want us to evolve as human

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beings before you know before real

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content rights but but there has been

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contact that's the thing that you and I

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don't get because we haven't seen

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anything but people millions of people

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have had what they call content what is

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interesting about that I got to take a

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break is

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how similar a lot of these accounts are

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oh my gosh there's a similarity with all

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of these different people who say

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they've seen something yeah what they've

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seen a lot of times lines up it's not

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the multiple witnesses multiple angles

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air radar ground radar air visual

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back on newsmakers Sunday final moments

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with Jeremy Korbel an investigative

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filmmaker on the right of your screen

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he's on the right here in Ryan Sprague a

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UFO journalist final moments what would

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you like people to take away and I know

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we've got the conference going on and

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people you're saying if people want to

548
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just drop by do it I mean what I

549
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personally want people to take away is I

550
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again I want your imagination to be

551
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weaponized this is not a marketing ploy

552
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this is not that's a lack of imagination

553
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there is a true and real phenomena that

554
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is occurring with a cursory glance you

555
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will become interested I guarantee just

556
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look into it personally I my films are

557
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seen that extraordinary beliefs calm you

558
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can see all this is ordinary beliefs

559
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calm correct and that's where you can

560
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see all my films on the subject matter

561
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that take a real hardcore documentary

562
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approach to figuring out if any of these

563
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stories are true okay and that's what I

564
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have to say right what do you guys I

565
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mean just to piggyback off that we have

566
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over 3,000 people who have already

567
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attended we're expecting another 2,000

568
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or so over the weekend and people come

569
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from all over the world to this

570
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conference and it's because we have

571
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astrobiologists nuclear physicists

572
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speaking at the event telling us this is

573
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a real phenomenon news I mean next to

574
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questions about God in religion this is

575
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this is probably right there

576
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all right this is the this is the

577
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existential question of are we alone

578
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yeah and people out there I'm sure

579
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believe we are not alone it's going to

580
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be easier to prove the existence of

581
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other intelligent life it'll be easier

582
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to prove that than the existence of God

583
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to be a mass public I think that it's

584
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either true or it's not true and

585
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hopefully one day soon we'll find out

586
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how much is the government our

587
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government working on trying to make

588
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contact it's a really startling out

589
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stuff out to the universe right we are

590
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see very

591
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the very beginning we shoot up in you

592
00:23:06,030 --> 00:23:04,510
know messages all the time I mean it's

593
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like yeah but there that's a there's a

594
00:23:10,740 --> 00:23:09,130
much deeper story to that and maybe we

595
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:10,750
will have to talk about that later how

596
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:12,970
worried is we've got 30 seconds how

597
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worried is for instance in United States

598
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about this issue that this is a threat

599
00:23:23,910 --> 00:23:22,060
that we could not handle I think that's

600
00:23:26,220 --> 00:23:23,920
a great question we have people like

601
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John Podesta who's currently come

602
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:29,020
forward about he regretting that he was

603
00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:31,090
not able to get the UFO information out

604
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:32,830
to the public when he was working for

605
00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:35,410
Clinton and Obama did you see that tweet

606
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yeah this was his biggest number one

607
00:23:41,310 --> 00:23:39,340
regret John Podesta see that yeah was

608
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that he didn't get disclosure so the

609
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government is worried of course but the